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Phonon calculations for gas molecules (O2, NH3) using finite displacement: is a large box sufficient without supercell?
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 1:43 am
by yuanchen_gao
Hello everyone,
I recently started performing DFT calculations on gas-phase molecules. At the moment, I need to compute phonons for gas molecules (O₂ and NH₃), and I plan to use the finite displacement method. The POSCAR for the gas molecule is constructed following the VASP example (with a larger cell parameter), for instance:
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O2 atom in a box
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I wonder if it is ok to perform phonon calculation based on this large unit cell, without creating any more supercell?
Thank you very much.
Re: Phonon calculations for gas molecules (O2, NH3) using finite displacement: is a large box sufficient without superce
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 9:09 am
by alexey.tal
Dear yuanchen_gao,
Since you are simulating a non-periodic system, you don't need to create a supercell, but the box should be large enough to avoid the interactions across the periodic boundary conditions. Similar logic applies if you do a regular SCF calculation for a molecule in a box, you don't need to include the k-points.
Best regards,
Alexey
Re: Phonon calculations for gas molecules (O2, NH3) using finite displacement: is a large box sufficient without superce
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2026 2:47 pm
by yuanchen_gao
Thank you very much, Alexey!